Billy the Ex-Bethelite

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  Happy Thanksgiving!

  by Oubliette in

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  happy thanksgiving everyone!

  i know that we are an international group here and that thanksgiving is an american holiday (and not even all of us in the us celebrate it), but i thought it would be nice to have a thread dedicated to sharing the many things we have to be thankful for: .

  i am thankful for: .

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  I'm thankful for:

  • grocery stores with abundant food from around the world
  • safe gas ovens and stoves
    
  • refrigerators
  • indoor plumbing
  • central heating
  • automobiles
  • television
  • Internet
  • my freedom from a cult
  • my siblings and their freedom
    
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  "Don't think too much...."

  by Tornintwo in

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  a couple of middle aged jw sisters dropped round unannounced the other day, they were only being kind i suppose, after some awkward silences i voiced a couple of my issues with the religion, (the safe ones), sort of an explanation as to why i'm no longer attending, namely: everyone else will die, lack of support for young ones, mistreatment/judgementalism by prominent ones who get away with it because 'they're imperfect and we have to wait on jehovah' etc.

  well, after sympathizing and telling me horror stories about awful elders and their own kids' issues in the past (how some left the truth, had bitter divorces from fellow witnesses etc) they then begged me to 'come back to jehovah', 'he misses me' apparently.

  finally, the more pushy one summed it up with 'you're thinking too much, it's not good for you', 'some issues you just have to put in a drawer and forget about....'.. hmm nice reasoning sisters, theocratic school training at its finest!

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  I think you left off the last part of her quote:

  the more pushy one summed it up with 'you're thinking too much, it's not good for you. It's better to mindlessly trust our caliphate leaders in Syria', 'some issues you just have to put in a drawer and forget about. Just strap on your bomb, walk into a crowd and blow yourself to heaven.'
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  Yeah, my parents plan to will everything to this parasitic organization and forsake their seed

  by Phaedra in

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  yeah, they'll leave it all, their home, savings, etc.. never mind helping out their struggling children who never had a chance.. fuck this organization and everything it stands for when its members think god will favor them more by willing everything to a corporation instead of their own struggling seed..

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  These are hard times for Bronze Age desert gods. Back in Jesus' day, he told his followers to give to the poor and Jesus didn't have an expensive home, watches, pinky rings, and closets full of suits. After generations of sacrificing at a temple, Christianity promised freedom from such burdens.

  Now in WT's day, the sheeple are told to give their money to a corporation. A lot of their giving used to be toward local congregations, but now the corporation is trying to squeeze every buck for "mother". The leaders are building an expensive, new, rural retreat for themselves, have abundant jewelry and clothes that they flaunt on their internet evangelist broadcasts.

  Stack the GBs expenses on top of the current lawsuits and expected future liabilities and what's a JW to do?
  
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  Did I imagine a brief thaw in the Watchtower injunction against going to university?

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  okay i was talking to an elder and he said me going to university was a bad idea and i should have listened to the society and not gone.

  but i said that when i went to university the watchtower was saying it might not be a bad idea to go to, as long as you do it for the "right reasons", don't associate with worldly people, and keep clear of "damaging ideas".

  but basically they said it was okay, in this "changing world" and job market to go to university.

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  Before I went to bethel, WT had established their anti-education policy. After I got to bethel, I saw how those with legal, medical, and engineering degrees got royal treatment. It was clear to me that it was wrong to pursue a degree, but if you're still a JW after you get one, they will be more than happy to "use" you. Yes, they did soften their stance on advanced education, although it was enforced to widely varying degrees by the JW clergy hierarchy. It was a loophole for those who could exploit it. By the time I left bethel, they had clamped down on it again.

  Okay I was talking to an elder and he said me going to university was a bad idea and I should have listened to the society and not gone.

  Going to bethel was a bad idea. After slaving there for years, I left with little more than memories. My degree and everything I learned in university is something of great value to me for the rest of my life.

  I also slaved to qualify to be appointed an elder and never received financial benefit from my years in that position. I was removed at the whim of the others on the body of elders. My degree has tripled my earning potential and it can't be taken away at the whim of some elders in a windowless room.
  
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  We were shown how to google jw-org last night

  by StarTrekAngel in

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  2. bible

  so last night i went to the meeting with my family.

  had not gone in 2 weeks.

  as usual i sat down reading the bible.

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  So the elder, rather than showing people how to go to the address bar and type the website address, showed them how to run a google search on jw-org.

  Why would anyone google a web address that they already know? As long as he's teaching them how to use google, it might empower more brothers to google words like "boobs".

  It used to be that WT said noduby needed the dangers of the Internet in their homes. Then as more dubs needed it for work or homework, WT instructed that it should only be on a computer in a public area of the home so noduby would be tempted by porn and/or apostates. Now that WT has almost completely abandoned printing, everyduby needs to have Internet access on all kinds of portable devices. Suddenly, porn isn't such a danger for dubs, eh? WT has such a fantastic website that none of the JWs will wander away to other websites?
  
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  Building layoffs & JW calendar 2016 theme

  by Gorbatchov in

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  2. friends

  the theme of the jw calendar 2016 is building, building, building.

  all the calendar pictures are about building wts property with cheap labor witnesses.. and then, just before the year approaches the building has halted.. it seems a short term decision.

  a strange correlation again.. gorby.

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  On average, 1,187 additional Kingdom Halls are needed each year to keep up with current organizational growth.

  The correct statement would be:

  On average, 1,187 additional Kingdom Halls need to be sold each year to keep up with current organizational expenses.
  
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  Magazine money

  by pepperheart in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  from next year the borg will only be publishing the two magazines saving about $2 million dollars a month.

  what do you think they will be spending the money on

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  I think they're in a no-win downward spiral. With the reduction in ragazines WT will have a reduction in monthly donations received. How many publishers can afford to keep donating the same amount for half as many magazines? Those publishers now have to spend more of their income to keep upgrading their tablets and data plans.
  
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  What makes people kill others over religion? The same thing that makes JW's let children die over blood doctrine.

  by Wasanelder Once in

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  my inactive relative, (female) asked in exasperation, "what makes people kill others over religion?

  " i responded, "the same thing that makes jw's let children die over the blood doctrine.

  religious ignorance and fervor causing the death of others without any compunction?

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  "What makes people kill others over religion?"

  While JWs aren't the sort to grab weapons and start killing innocent people, it's what they have been trained to pray for and fantasize about.

  Q) Why do JWs pray that billions of people be killed for not belonging to their WT Corp religion?

  A) They've been promised to each get a pet panda. So it's the damn pandas' fault!

  
  
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  Liquidation sale of RBC assets

  by Darkknight757 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  got this very interesting email last night and i thought i'd share it.. this is from the local rbc.. "in harmony with our new ldc form we have been asked by the branch to liquidate all current assets of used tools and materials once owned by the rbc.

  you are invited to visit the equipment trailers to acquire items being liquidated by the rbc asset team, these items will be offered on a first come bases with voluntary donation.

  if you see any item you like please be in position to take it with you at that time, after you return to your congregation then you will make a donation of cash or check in the congregation contribution box designated for the support of the worldwide work.

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  Maybe all the new construction they are planning will be tents.
  
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  No more printing of WT and Awake in my country.. Shit just got real

  by cognitivedizzy in

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  guys .

  a letter was just read in out kh stating that all printing of wt and awake is ceased for the coming year and we will just place tracts on fs, countries which were cared by our branch will be cared by other countries...along with this they read the new fs form and stuff about reporting links of videos wtf..lol.

  i can't tell which country perhaps that will give away a lot, any one with a similar information.

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  Billy the Ex-Bethelite

  Evidently, Kali can kick Jehovah's ass.